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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.22 09:42:00 -
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In light of the detrimental effects to the amarr miltia regarding the goonsploit, aiding minmatar with a huge boost to upgrades and making them the no brainer FW faction to join: while amarr hemorrhage good players new and old.
Can we get that system reset now please ccp?
The past month we have tryed hard and only lost good men while the minnies swell up with players from all the shiney benefits, now exploited LP upgrading their systems gave them.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:20:00 -
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Id say delete the upgrades, but since minmatar have so many more people farming more LP over the last month, due to the attractiveness of the faction, minnies can likely just prop that back up themselves now and leave us in the same position.
The damage has been done and the war is forever slanted.
The isk is going to be removed from the 'sploiters - that hurts no one but the exploiters for their time - what about the poor amarrians who have been effected directly by the LP generated? Is that going to be removed too?
Wishful thinking possibly, but still worth a ramble from a butt hurt player, his crumbling faction and friends.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:24:00 -
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It is not the older corps we are pointing at for speed tanking in week old alts, its the flood of new players cashing in on your side, making it hard for amarr to take anything back!
The aid of the goonsploit's LP just enhanced your sides attractiveness for those players that might have joined us instead. Its all related.
edit: shame we dont get minmatar LP for killing minmatars :P
EDIT again: or perhaps LP for defensive plexing when a side is under 50% systems in the war zone, on a sliding scale etc.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:07:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
The only thing that should, and CCP Shregs already stated that will happen. Is a few perma bans and a few negative ISK balances...
so the isk that was made to be removed: but the LP that upgraded the systems that caused the window of exploit to open remains in and the knock on effects, left for the amarr to pick up the pieces?
That makes sense to you?
ooooooookay
/logicfail
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:14:00 -
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Do i really expect CCP to wade in and reset the amarr/minmatar front, after they did not reset before the patch when minnies steamrollered amarr systems in anticipation of the patch?: no.
But its free to ask,while backing it up with a reasonable debate.
I need to stick to the free stuff, since my isk making and pvp career got harpooned from every angle.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:24:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Oh...**** GUYS, there's alot of systems of us to recapture! We have a awesome chance to make a **** ton of LP...if only we can get our heads out of eachothers asses.....oh wait, that requires work and ...GASP! Effort!!!?!?!?
CCP can we has reset plz...??!?
dude, amarrs been sitting on buttons while dodging zee blob for over a month now, chasing frigs out of plexes and got no where. Now we find out minnies have been looking so damned good compared because the goonies were working a hella'sploit boosting the minnies no end.
forgetting for a second we actually have to sit in minmatar plexes in proper pvp/pve ships and that we have no stations to base from since they were taken before the patch, after the changes were announced, of course.
"working as intended" Hans?
The clues are here and while people still care, we will raise this valid and obvious points, till there isnt anyone left and minmatar fw becomes incursions with a better LP store.
I very much doubt ccp had this in mind when spending 5 minutes of a coders time implementing this shite
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:28:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:What would a system reset be good for? You guys still couldn't dock in Auga to camp the station. 
Your are correct.
But we would also get back kourm and houla, you guys would get booted out and have to retake it again and maybe actually earn somthing for real this time, with the new mechanics, not a mad nightnight dash before the mechanics change - like last time.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.25 05:30:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Zen Guerrilla wrote:What would a system reset be good for? You guys still couldn't dock in Auga to camp the station. Your are correct. But we would also get back kourm and houla, you guys would get booted out and have to retake it again and maybe actually earn somthing for real this time, with the new mechanics, not a mad nightnight dash before the mechanics change - like last time. We held Huola months before any change was announced. And I remember the Amarr fighting pretty hard over Kourmonen leading up to Inferno. You lost. There was no ninja-steal. You are delusional.
And we held Auga for a year before that and fought back and forth right upto patch day, you had more people and tz coverage for the 4 hour flip - exactly my point you dont deserve the systems taken before - and you didnt deserve the players and isk you got like goons propped you up with t4/5.
thanks for helping me prove my point.
I want a system reset and understand we will still not have Auga, but we will get to fight for it fairly, not scared of a little fairness are you? :P
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:42:00 -
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no body on the minm side but roobosasa cared about systems till the patch notes came out, then minmatarr used their numbers around the tz to take our stuff.
you earned your systems before we could get the numbers around the clock to defend them and or take yours effectivly, minmatar were at a major advantage from a mechanic change and managed to hold them till the patch came in at which point the 4 hours after DT changed to 2 days solid plexing.
and you think you deserved any of those?
As to the minmattar gaining many players from the t4/t5 situation caused by the LP dumps from goons? how do you not see that?
new player sees fw changes, looks at factions, sees minmatar at t4/5, makes alt joins, makes the already heavily outnumbered amarr even harder to fight back. - its pretty simple.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:10:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:
Yeah, we had the assets and people available to take advantage of the fact the system was changing. How is it our (or CCP's) fault that the Amarr didn't? Life's unfair, get over it.
Gaining many players? You mean, gaining mission farming alts and ****? Who gives a **** they don't benefit us. We sent every able-bodied PvP'r to the Amarr militia. You guys have **** tons of #s now, its not our fault you still don't coordinate. (Although you have been more lately, good for you.) I mean... Fweddit? New Eden Renegades? Moar Tears? and I can name countless others.
please calm down, i at no point said that its any players fault, its ccps and their broken bugged and exploitable mechanics.
The minmatar attitude to this is "screw you we are winning try harder" i am simply pointing out that this would not have been achieved without ccps intervention and that your efforts multiplied by the sway of the ongoing war at the time.
Have no doubt that if this patch happened a year ago+ we would likly be having the same discussion on opposing ends of the argument.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:24:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:TL;DR
Tried, failed, fled to caldari again.
Im going to stay and against all odds, win back the amarr space and then the minnies space and when i do im going to stuff it down their throats so hard they will prey for death.
Enjoy your old caldari friends Mantis, im sure they will look forward to taking you back under their wing, your failed desperate heads hung as low as your passion to fight for anything.
Just be known minmaturds, you may be enjoying a ccp aided victory through luck and moving of goal posts, but our final victory made all the sweeter, riding my boat, aptly named "Amarr Victor" on the sea of your tears.
The days of reckoning are coming heathens, you will realize that your short lived time at the top will come crashing down around you and your so called friends will run and flip sides to gather whats left of their lives, as your shortly lived dreams crumble down around you all.
RP is fun.
love you all <3
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